Guys, Am I Crazy?

"Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment" (evanmcm) 04/25/2014 at 20:31 • Filed to: S65, AMG, W221, Green, S Class, V12, Biturbo, Rare

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This thing has been on the 'Bay for a couple weeks now...and I look at it every day. It's the only one like it I've ever seen - only W221 I've ever seen with the 4 seat interior, and the only 65 I've seen in Jade Green...one of only a few W221s I've ever seen in that color. Also that interior is nice. Would like to swap out the wood/leather steering wheel for all-leather, but other than that it's perfect. Mileage is a non-factor, these things have been bulletproof.

If things go well in the next couple months and it's still there....having some dirty thoughts.....

No one buy it please? Thanks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-B…

Alex B > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:33

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I hope you get it!

Merkin Muffley > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:33

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that is the shit.

If you do get it, keep the wood wheel, it will wear better.

Vicente Esteve > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:35

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That is just Deliciously Beautiful

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:35

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Hey! That's local! And an awesome color combo... Damn. Check the Collectors Car Gallery's website too. Sometimes they price things more competitively on their own site.

PS9 > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:37

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Almost as much power as an Enzo for less than a brand new vette....

twinturbobmw > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:39

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That's one of those cars you keep for a little while then sell before it gets too expensive. I can't imagine the costs of keeping that going for a few years.

area man > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:41

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I've recently decided that this is my favorite S Class, so no, not crazy at all!

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > PS9 04/25/2014 at 20:41

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And the sound...and the massage seats...and I hear they go around corners a lot better than you expect. Also the brakes are insane.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > twinturbobmw 04/25/2014 at 20:42

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The biggest maintenance cost is the brakes, after a period of time the ABC might need servicing, but if you get the parts yourself and know a good guy, it's not as bad as you'd think. These things don't break nearly like the W220 did.

Manuél Ferrari > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:42

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You're not crazy.

An F355 would be crazy. Same price but more expensive to own.

You should totally get an F355 ;)

drunkenup4 > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:42

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hmm I've never seen a 221 with the 4 seat package. I'd be a little disappointed with the lack of heat/cool + memory rear seats that a lot of other cars have even without the 4 seat pkg.. It looks like they are absent from this car.. I don't see the buttons for them on the door.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) 04/25/2014 at 20:44

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Wow really? I should do that. 41 is already the cheapest W221 S65 in the US as far as I can tell. Wonder if they'd go under 40....

Definitely an awesome color combo. Nice thing is too, such eye-popping color combos are hard to sell because most people want white/grey/silver/black with black interiors so between the mileage and the color, you get a discount.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > drunkenup4 04/25/2014 at 20:45

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They're there if you look closely...pictures are a little hard to see perhaps, wish they were bigger.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Alex B 04/25/2014 at 20:46

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Me too haha. A few things would have to work out but it would be nice ;)

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Vicente Esteve 04/25/2014 at 20:46

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Usually not a fan of green cars but here it's amazing.

Vicente Esteve > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:49

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It is this Gorgeous paint that glows and shines when the glimmers of sunshine reside over the square inches of every body panel forming the tonality and the character that invigorates you into adoring this awe of beauty and perfection in color.

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:49

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Yup. Not always, but I was looking at a 3.0CS that sold a little while ago. It was on eBay too, and it was $3,000-ish less on their website if I remember correctly.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > area man 04/25/2014 at 20:49

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I go back and forth...the new one is stunning, the W220 is classic...but in person these are always impressive. And as an AMG they look very sharp. I prefer the facelift models but I'm not exactly in a position to buy a six figure car and won't be any time soon likely haha

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Merkin Muffley 04/25/2014 at 20:50

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Good point. I don't like the way it looks but it definitely will wear better. One thing I'm shocked at is how good the leather has worn. Seems like it has almost never been sat in. The Designo leather must be on another level.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Manuél Ferrari 04/25/2014 at 20:50

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You know of a 40k 355??! Oh man. Stop.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) 04/25/2014 at 20:51

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Interesting. I will go check it out.

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:53

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Ah, I just checked. Its the same, unfortunately. But its not a bad idea to keep an eye on their site too.

http://classiccargallery.com/details.php?id…

A3R0 > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 20:57

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The guys who own the Classic Car Gallery are great guys. You can tell they have a passion for cars and care about them. I would strongly recommend calling them just to talk about the car.

Louros > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 21:01

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Not my favorite generation of S Class but goddamn that is a tremendous color combination

drunkenup4 > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 21:03

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the buttons are not there. I see the power seat controls and recliner button for the front pass. seat but the others are absent. Reference this photo

Arben72 > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 21:12

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110k miles in a runaway point for me. Maintenance is expensive, especially parts. You can only diy so much on a w221 without expensive equipment. I'm on my second w221, when I say it's reliable it's all relative.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 21:42

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I don't know if bullet-proof is the right word. Back in the days of the W126, yes, the S-class was bullet-proof. But today, although well-made, these cars are hysterically over-engineered. Combine that with the mileage and I can tell you two things:

1) A mechanical/electronic failure is not an "if," but a "when".

2) You have basically found the most expensive car to work on this side of a Bugatti Veyron. There's a reason in lost 80% of its value in 7 years.

Still, I feel your pain. That is a phenomenal, beautiful, amazing, fast, and supremely luxurious. If I could buy one someday, I would. But I'd wait and save up until I could both afford to buy one with a third that many miles or less, and could afford the maintenance.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) 04/25/2014 at 22:06

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Yeah I just was on there too...but it's still a great price. Did you see that Saab 96 on there? I'd give my right arm for that.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 04/25/2014 at 22:08

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Well the idea would be once I can afford it, that includes maintenance. Electric problems have been rare on these, I've been a religious member of MBWorld for a while now (don't tell any of my BMW friends :P) and it seems like they have a decent track record. You're right though, they are probably one of the most expensive cars to work on short of a true exotic. Somewhat scary.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > A3R0 04/25/2014 at 22:15

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I might do that...seems like they have a wide selection of very interesting cars. Saw some great stuff on their site. Once I know more about where my life is heading here I will definitely reach out to them.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Arben72 04/25/2014 at 22:15

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Which trim level 221? How do you like it?

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > drunkenup4 04/25/2014 at 22:16

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Oh I see what you mean. I am pretty sure that they are also heated/cooled, although I believe some of the buttons are moved to the center console now since there is no middle seat. I read about it once somewhere but don't remember specifics. Sorry I misunderstood your original statement.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Louros 04/25/2014 at 22:17

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I gotta say...the 221 has really grown on me. When it came out (and in non-sport/AMG trim) I did not like it much. But they have a presence for sure.

Manuél Ferrari > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 22:26

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I see them all the time! Sometimes less than $40K!

Louros > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 22:27

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Agreed, but having grown up around the 126 and the 140, I'm partial to them. I'd especially love to have a 140 coupe.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Louros 04/25/2014 at 22:40

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Understandable. I used to love those too. When I was a teenager, a buddy's dad had a W140 S500 in that weird almost pink-silver color and it was loaded. Loved that thing, even though it was just a big brick. Think he still had it up till a few years ago. The damn thing never broke and was absolutely silent inside. Just a big leather-lined bank vault with a V8.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Manuél Ferrari 04/25/2014 at 22:41

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What! I haven't ever seen a 355 that cheap. I'm going to have to look into this.

I'm blaming my lack of sleep due to time spent on used car sites entirely on you haha

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 22:50

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I actually posted that on Oppo a couple of weeks ago. I might consider selling a kidney... its just too cool.

Manuél Ferrari > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 22:57

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Haha sorry!

Here is one for you:

I thought you'd like this 1998 Ferrari F355 on AutoTrader.com.

http://m.autotrader.com/vdp.html?id=35…

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) 04/25/2014 at 22:57

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Damn I didn't see that...haven't been here in about a month due to just being busy.

It's gotta be one of the coolest cars I've ever seen...and 150 hp? In that thing, that's all you need. I had no idea you could get that much power out of that engine. Would love to meet the guy who built that.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Manuél Ferrari 04/25/2014 at 23:22

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Everything I know has been a lie. The universe just imploded around me haha. That is a very nice car...belt service and all too. Would be an excellent second car.

190e30-Now with COSWORTH > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/25/2014 at 23:30

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If it helps at all, I know the guys selling really well. They're super nice and know their stuff, so I'd definitely recommend giving them a call if you're really considering. Especially with this once, since its such a rare color combo.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > 190e30-Now with COSWORTH 04/25/2014 at 23:48

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Oh really? Good to know. I'm waiting to hear back about a few things, that will determine what I can do. I would definitely love to reach out to them, I'd love to see the original sticker to see the options breakdown.

Manuél Ferrari > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/26/2014 at 00:08

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They are so cheap! You josh have to pray the engine doesn't blow up!!

This one is a 98 too. The later years are supposed to have better engines.

Arben72 > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/26/2014 at 00:39

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I currently have a '12 s550, my previous one was a '10, and I might be getting a '15 soon. They're plush, and quick, and feel like tanks on the road. It's the only car where you have more energy after the drive then before. They are expensive* maintain, but they're 100k cars so percentage wise compared to a lesser car it's about the same. My service 2 was around $900 if you're wondering, and oil changes are around $160.

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Manuél Ferrari 04/26/2014 at 01:19

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Yeah I've heard that. Basically so long as you get the belt service done you should be in business, they seem to be somewhat reliable apart from that :p

Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment > Arben72 04/26/2014 at 01:22

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Alright, good to know. Interesting what you say - you have more energy after the drive than before. I've heard similar statements made before. How many miles is service 2 after? Can't remember. I feel like so long as you catch problems before they get out of hand, you protect yourself. Also, aftermarket warranties can still be written for these, just found out. That's probably the way to go.

Arben72 > Evan, Pope Of Jalopnik by Self-Appointment 04/26/2014 at 02:01

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Service 2 is 2 years (in my case), or 2nd oil change (I think). The first day I got my '12 I damaged the door and had to have it painted, 2 years later it developed an electrical short from the door being assembled incorrectly. I hate to have been stuck with the bill, (body shop paid for it). I don't know if a aftermarket warranty would have covered that ( I doubt it because my original Mercedes warranty didn't). It's by far the most relaxing drive ever, I keep the throttle sensitivity on E and suspension on sport, makes for a great highway cruiser. I don't see how the seats can possibly be more comfortable after adjusting them correctly (the massage seats are worth every penny). The car is whisper quiet and smooth, yet still you don't get a disconnected feeling to the road. It makes 3 hour drives feel like running to the grocery store. You really have to drive one, but if you're buying used, get the Non Amg's. They're much less likely to be abused, and tire changes every oil change get expensive.